CHATFUN: Meebo Dialogues With Patriots And Others

I've been really enjoying some of the Meebo dialogues and tips that have come in. Many are confidential but here's some from today that amused. I'll put them up on occasion if they shed light on the enemies of freedom or may be of general interest.

[23:24] meeboguest352398: Hey Andy, heard this one?
[23:24] meeboguest352398: Q:What's Ralph Fiennes definition of safe sex?
[23:25] andrewlanderyou: what?
[23:25] meeboguest352398: A: Locking the toilet door.
[23:25] andrewlanderyou: could also apply to Stephen Mayne...

[20:33] meeboguest388637: How ya doin' you fat, bankrupt, gutter-dwelling piece of shi*?
[20:33] andrewlanderyou: very well thanks
[20:34] meeboguest388637: How was work today? Oh, sorry. I forgot that you don't work.
[20:34] andrewlanderyou: I don't?
[20:35] meeboguest388637: Cramming a blogspot blog full of internet adverts and chucking in a bit of fantasy content doesn't count.
[20:35] andrewlanderyou: fantasy you say?
[20:36] andrewlanderyou: I'd certainly concede the site is fantastic
[20:36] meeboguest388637: Am I talking to one of those "intelligent" computer programs that keep chucking questions back at me based on the words I type in?
[20:36] andrewlanderyou: what makes you feel that way?
[20:37] meeboguest388637: It's like I'm playing "Space Quest" again. >>Walk forward. >>Get gun. >>Get ammo. >>Talk person.
[20:37] andrewlanderyou: Aim carefully
[20:37] meeboguest388637: Better let you get back to it. Whatever "it" is.
[20:38] andrewlanderyou: will do
[20:38] andrewlanderyou: have a nice day
[20:38] Meebo Message: meeboguest388637 has left your page

[17:30] meeboguest286073: great post about the left andrew

[15:55] meeboguest847492: what's your view about Ashley Gardiner's haircut?

[14:40] meeboguest444440: andrew, are you able to help...just doing some research and need to know who are Tim Holding's friends...can you help?
[14:41] andrewlanderyou: yes, some might say that a research project on Tim Holding's friends could be very short I'm kidding of course, what do you need to know?
[14:44] meeboguest779497: who on the left is in the Labor Alliance?
[14:45] meeboguest779497: Why is Tim known as The Networker? Apart from the obvious
[14:47] andrewlanderyou: Labor Alliance no longer includes Tim and the NUW of course
[14:47] andrewlanderyou: the only people left in it are basically the remnants of the Pledge Left (OC: And Eric Dearicott of course)
[14:47] meeboguest779497: aha...
[14:47] andrewlanderyou: people associated with the Vehicle Builders Union
[14:48] andrewlanderyou: like Ian Jones, his wife newly elected MP Gayle Tierney
[14:48] meeboguest779497: so it's back to unity?
[14:48] andrewlanderyou: no they're not
[14:48] andrewlanderyou: still seem to be voting with the Left
[14:48] andrewlanderyou: for now anyway
[14:48] andrewlanderyou: Tim is known as a Networker because he was a member of this thing called Young Labor Network
[14:49] meeboguest779497: a sub faction of Unity?
[14:49] andrewlanderyou: it was yes, actually no, it was meant to be all of young people in Labor Unity or Labor Unity in Young Labor if you know what I mean
[14:49] meeboguest779497: aha
[14:50] andrewlanderyou: then a fellow called David Feeney started this thing called Centre Forum which kind of competed with Network and supplanted it
[14:50] meeboguest779497: I thought Feeney and Tim were mates?
[14:51] andrewlanderyou: not particularly close, at least not then, now I think not unfriendly, in the manner of old warriors
[14:51] meeboguest779497: is it or was it ever the case that to be a Labor party branch office bearer one needs to have 3 years experience in a communtiy committee?
[14:52] andrewlanderyou: not that I'm aware of, what sort of community committee?
[14:52] meeboguest779497: any
[14:52] andrewlanderyou: in some parts of the ALP, it might be seen as a disqualification to have outside interests
[14:52] meeboguest779497: really?
[14:53] andrewlanderyou: (kidding again, although behind many jokes is an essential truth)
[14:53] meeboguest779497: I thought it was something that Labor encouraged?
[14:53] andrewlanderyou: to answer your original question, basically Tim Holding is a member of the NUW aligned faction (not sure it has a name as such) which was part of the RIght then split and voted with the SOcialist Left but last year voted with the Right and will probably stay doing that
[14:53] meeboguest779497: and who is the head of that?
[14:53] andrewlanderyou: it's head is debatable Charlie Donnelly is the head of the union so that probably means it's him but Tim is its most senior Parliamentarian
[14:54] meeboguest779497: really?
[14:55] andrewlanderyou: I doubt they have a formally elected leader
[14:55] andrewlanderyou: yeah he is, not in years but in clout
[14:55] meeboguest779497: and Brumby? different union?
[14:55] andrewlanderyou: Brumby isn't really from a union
[14:55] meeboguest779497: no?
[14:55] andrewlanderyou: is generally supported by the Right
[14:55] meeboguest779497: OK...
[14:55] andrewlanderyou: no it's not a requirement
[14:56] meeboguest779497: thank you very much for the tid bits
[14:56] meeboguest779497: so where does Ferguson sit?
[14:56] andrewlanderyou: Ferguson is in his own group
[14:56] andrewlanderyou: which is called the Ferguson Left
[14:56] meeboguest779497: really?
[14:56] meeboguest779497: does not really sound very left
[14:56] andrewlanderyou: which basically depends on the votes of timber workers part of the CFMEU
[14:56] meeboguest779497: aha
[14:56] andrewlanderyou: no, he's my kind of lefty
[14:56] meeboguest779497: you a lefty?
[14:56] andrewlanderyou: loves uranium mining, cutting down trees, etc, a real patriot
[14:57] andrewlanderyou: some would say I'm not much of a lefty
[14:57] meeboguest779497: so tell me why does Evan Thornley get you bristling?
[14:57] andrewlanderyou: 1) he's a complete fraud
[14:57] meeboguest779497: though not very charistmatic at all
[14:57] andrewlanderyou: True, 2) he's a pompous windbag and 3) he's defrauded a number of friends of mine but butter wouldn't melt in his mouth, quite horrible
[14:58] meeboguest779497: yes...I can see that
[14:58] meeboguest779497: is he wealthy or is he broke?
[14:58] andrewlanderyou: I understand Evan is very wealthy from selling shares in a company called Looksmart which ironically never made much money itself
[14:58] meeboguest779497: some say $50 Mill
[14:58] meeboguest779497: so he is not in a union?
[14:58] andrewlanderyou: not and indeed banned them from Looksmart
[14:58] meeboguest779497: really?
[14:59] andrewlanderyou: yes, referenced in their annual reports, he's a shocker that bloke, possibly the greatest crook elected to public office in Victoria since Thomas Bent the Victorian Premier who used to shift railway plans to include his own land
[15:00] meeboguest779497: yes I know of Bent ( by name and nature)
[15:00] meeboguest779497: Is he intellectually able?
[15:01] andrewlanderyou: I think at one level he is
[15:01] meeboguest779497: yes?
[15:01] andrewlanderyou: at another level he is a fraud with that too, he reads and quotes but does not understand. A dumber version of Barry Jones.
[15:01] meeboguest779497: is he going to rise to the top?
[15:02] andrewlanderyou: doubt it
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[15:03] meeboguest779497: yep...so factional shifts are no longer seen as ratting? Now it's noble to go with the strength?
[15:04] andrewlanderyou: no, I think it's not generally regarded that favourably but depends
[15:04] meeboguest779497: How does Carr keep his power in the left?
[15:04] andrewlanderyou: persistence, he wields his numbers recording clipboard like a broadsword
[15:04] meeboguest779497: and assassinations? metaphorically speaking of course
[15:05] andrewlanderyou: lol, not that I'm aware of, he enjoys the support of most of their union base which includes dumb-fu*k union secretaries like Brian Daley of the LHMU who are easily played
[15:05] andrewlanderyou: but is largely disrespected by the smarter people like Tanner, Griffin and many of the state MPs, they often seem to plan each other's demise but it basically goes no where
[15:06] meeboguest779497: so what is your view of Emily's list...does it get females elected to parl or not?
[15:06] andrewlanderyou: not much and no, Emily's list makes sense in the US, early money is like yeast I suppose in a primaries system
[15:07] meeboguest779497: aha...
[15:07] andrewlanderyou: in ALP preselections money is not a big issue, it doesn't cost much to communicate with those voting in a plebiscite, so many think that emily's list is basically there as a cheer squad set up by Joan Kirner for Socialist Left women MPs
[15:08] meeboguest779497: Well, that's the case... very interesting chatting Andrew...Anthony Byrne...is he independent? If so how did he keep his pre-selection
[15:08] andrewlanderyou: Anthony is in the Right
[15:08] andrewlanderyou: very highly regarded chap
[15:09] meeboguest779497: Right? Nice guy
[15:09] andrewlanderyou: yes I hear he is
[15:09] meeboguest779497: Alan Griffin is Unity?
[15:09] andrewlanderyou: nope
[15:09] meeboguest779497: left?
[15:09] andrewlanderyou: he's in the Socialist Left
[15:09] meeboguest779497: are Byrne and Holding mates then?
[15:09] andrewlanderyou: he and a fellow called Gavin Jennings are probably the most prominent anti Kim Carr people
[15:10] meeboguest779497: Gavin is smart?
[15:10] andrewlanderyou: Byrne and Holding not factional mates no, but may well be friendly at a personal level, not too sure, yes Gavin is seen as very, very sneaky
[15:10] meeboguest779497: but in the same faction?
[15:10] andrewlanderyou: perhaps the most prized trait in factional games
[15:10] meeboguest779497: sneaky? really?
[15:10] andrewlanderyou: same faction as Carr yes
[15:11] meeboguest779497: aha..
[15:11] andrewlanderyou: that is an unrealised truth of factional life I suppose: your real competitors come from within your own faction
[15:11] andrewlanderyou: Gavin is seen as very sneaky yes, or at least is labelled that way by his foes
[15:12] meeboguest779497: so you obviously have excellent contacts on the other side as well...or is it that they just leak?
[15:12] andrewlanderyou: lots of leaks, drips and occasional gushing taps in all corners
[15:12] meeboguest779497: yes, that's clear
[15:12] andrewlanderyou: on both sides of politics too
[15:13] meeboguest779497: really?
[15:13] andrewlanderyou: unlike most journalistes, I suppose what you see is what you get, I don't pretend to be a neutral, impartial oracle of righteousness.
[15:13] andrewlanderyou: yes we've had some good Liberal stories of late
[15:13] meeboguest779497: are you a journo by profession?
[15:13] andrewlanderyou: they're ripping strips off each other
[15:13] meeboguest779497: yes...read those
[15:13] andrewlanderyou: am now yes
[15:13] andrewlanderyou: although some at The Age would dispute that definition
[15:14] meeboguest779497: well jealousy I suppose!
[15:14] andrewlanderyou: yes they hate it when I break the stories they should be getting
[15:14] meeboguest779497: I bet
[15:14] andrewlanderyou: no one trusts The Age really, even chunks of the SL hate them
[15:14] meeboguest779497: a lot of it seems to be coming from the East...or is that just the perception?
[15:14] andrewlanderyou: the Eastern suburbs?
[15:15] andrewlanderyou: we have ALP stories out of the west on occasion and northern burbs too I spose, the Libs barely have a pulse in the west, except for Bernie Finn
[15:15] meeboguest779497: so Bruce Atkinson...and Dalla-Riva ...are they behind it or is it their supporters?
[15:16] meeboguest779497: Yes, Bernie has been know to let the odd cat out of the bag, no doubt
[15:16] andrewlanderyou: no one seems to know definitively (who leaked)
[15:16] meeboguest779497: no of course not
[15:16] andrewlanderyou: the Olexander theory made some sense but who knows
[15:16] meeboguest779497: the experts are resident at 104 exhibition street and 101 collins street
[15:17] andrewlanderyou: some thought it was done by Bruce himself but I don't really buy that
[15:17] meeboguest779497: Ollie...do you thnk that they will give him a payout?
[15:17] andrewlanderyou: if anyone will miss out it will be him but it depends on the doctors I think
[15:17] andrewlanderyou: the theory that the Kroger ppl did it? why would they? I thought they liked Bruce or at the very least adopted him to smite Dalla-Riva
[15:19] meeboguest779497: true...now the comment was one general one that the intitaive begins from 101 and 104 and then there is retaliation... so on it goes
[15:19] meeboguest779497: explain your adoration of Panopolous, Andrew... are you serious? or s it tongue in cheek
[15:20] andrewlanderyou: some might consider a little bit facetious I couldn't possibly comment
[15:20] meeboguest779497: can you make it more obvious, please...
[15:21] andrewlanderyou: are you suggesting Sophie does not deserve the praise of a loving community ?
[15:21] meeboguest779497: here you go again
[15:21] meeboguest779497: are you infatuated?
[15:21] andrewlanderyou: I'm not sure what you mean
[15:21] andrewlanderyou: infatuated?
[15:22] meeboguest779497: with Sophie?
[15:22] andrewlanderyou: defined as: to inspire or possess with a foolish or unreasoning passion, as of love?
[15:22] meeboguest779497: are you ex Melbourne Universiyt ?
[15:22] andrewlanderyou: yes
[15:22] meeboguest779497: just trying to understand...
[15:23] meeboguest779497: are you of the same vintage?
[15:23] andrewlanderyou: she's a bit older than me (while being ageless)
[15:23] andrewlanderyou: but yes our paths did cross
[15:23] andrewlanderyou: at the House of Pain (Union House)
[15:23] meeboguest779497: who was screaming? You or Sophie?
[15:23] meeboguest779497: you didn't XXXX her did you...no that is personal ...ignore that question!
[15:23] andrewlanderyou: even then she was much adored
[15:24] andrewlanderyou: Me? No, I did but see her passing by and yet I love her til I die
[15:24] meeboguest779497: Browning?
[15:24] andrewlanderyou: very good
[15:24] meeboguest779497: To her Coy Mistress
[15:25] andrewlanderyou: was it? OK
[15:26] andrewlanderyou: you have a good memory
[15:26] andrewlanderyou: was famously quoted by Sir Robert Menzies about the Queen
[15:26] meeboguest779497: of course, he was an English teacher, me thinks
[15:27] andrewlanderyou: barrister I thought but mainly a career politician
[15:27] andrewlanderyou: I hope that all helps your research
[15:27] meeboguest779497: nice chatting...yes some bits clarified...
[15:27] meeboguest779497: yes...thanks much...catch you next time
[15:27] andrewlanderyou: yeah any time

Game on.